Favorite Quotes from Others
In the context of naming newly found Tinctorius morphs we have these two.
Number 1. The "experts" say:
Number 2. The "experts" say:
The correct name of this morph should therefore be called: Local form most similar to the Holotype for Dendrobates tinctorius.
- Meaning: Simply apply the name that most closely matches the appearance of another one already named. This is naming by color morph as we do.
"Furthermore there are terms such as variety, variant, race and others more. These [sic] are no [sic] systematic categories but only serve to express variability within species. Terrarium keepers often like to hang on to the vernacular names [i.e., UNofficial names] associated with these, as is the case, for example, for the MULTITUDE OF VARIETIES of the polymorphic species Tinctorius [e.g., UN-official names such as Patrica, Azureus, Powder Grey, Azureus...] . This practice [of relying on common hobby names as if they were official] may sometimes lead to misunderstandings and misconceptions, and from the viewpoint of nomenclature [i.e., correct names] is utter nonsense. [Bracketed language to aid with clarity.]
- Meaning: A tinc is a tinc, and naming by color morph is correct!
FAQ & Q(?) OF THE WEEK
January 28, 2017
I know your frogs are all captive bred, good, is there a website where I can go and see some of the frogs lineages you have actually in photos from the wild?
Sure. Check out Tinctorius.ch. It has the best display of tinctorius morphs we have ever seen in one place, and it showcases the natural variability of the tinctorius. Look at our frogs and you will find ALL of them there as NATURAL variations. Thanks for the Q! (Tinctorius.ch is a German site. Try Google Translate to read it in the English language.)
For example, from Tinctorius.ch:
The term 'nominat' is widespread and common, but unfortunately scientifically wrong. In Tinctorius there is no taxonomic structure which requires the use of this term (only species subdivided into subspecies have a nominate form), otherwise the scientific name would have to contain two subordinate names, namely Dendrobates tinctorius tinctorius.Here again we re-emphasize the plain fact, not one variety of tinctorius is any different than any other from an official classification standpoint. They simply look different just like people do, but the same species.
The correct name of this morph should therefore be called: Local form most similar to the Holotype for Dendrobates tinctorius. [Italicized Emphasis added]
How does anybody know what to call them for reference purposes?
The experts say apply the name that most closely matches the appearance of another one already named. (See, the italicized paragraph above.) This is naming by color morph as we do.
January 21, 2017
What's the lineage, origin or source of your ...?
The underlying difference is a hobby may share their line data from a small (or large) pool of frogs, but the inbreeding is high there as well because many choose not to accept the truth about that species. The Tinctorius for example, is a single species of frogs with many color morphs. Many choose not to accept the truth about that species. Others advocate wild capture for the pet trade even through wild frogs do have wild jungle diseases, in addition to the illegality of such actions. Capturing more wild frogs from the jungle for more color is not okay. It is unlawful.
We are a professional breeder as part of a diversified business, most of it not in frogs, but these frogs are our passion. We produce the best "pure" genetics around, and truly love what we do!
January 14, 2017
Do you provide a full record of the lineage of each frog you sell? In other words, if I buy a frog from you, do you provide all the records necessary for me to trace every generation all the way back to the original population/location? Thanks.
USA Frog, inc.
Dillon Wascher, President
January 7, 2017
Why do you breed for colorful Tinctorius and not stay within the standard hobby lines and the new imports?Wild dart frogs are subject to endangerment in the wild, AND the NUMBER ONE (#1) global threat to them in the wild is man's illegal harvest for the pet trade. As such, common sense says: "greater demand means greater temptation to pillage them from the wild for cash." (Sadly, some frog scientists actually ADVOCATE wild capture for the pet trade,...SHOCKING!)
To much reliance on hobby lines encourages in-breeding.
- USA Frog has all of the top lines and only offer offspring from the best-of-the-best intra-variety (both parents of the same variety), we have actually proven IN-HOUSE with offspring to be of the best-of-the-best, GUARANTEED!
- USA Frog is wholly against the harvesting of wild rain forest species of any kind for any reason, including the pet trade and even science.
- We produce the most beautiful frogs in the world, from perfectly sustainable breeding stock already in the pet trade and in house with us.
Team USA Frog
P.S. If you do only want the CLASSIC frogs we have those in abundance, amazing and awesome, every one!
December 31, 2016
Do you, USA Frog, REQUIRE me to pickup my frogs at a FedEx location?
No. We require pickup, sometimes and seldom, when it is very cold, i.e., below 20. Our best in the business packaging let's us safely ship when others cannot. Ask around, how many frog sellers use COOLERS with lids to ship frogs? Answer: NOBODY, but USA Frog, and the leadership trends continue...
We hope you understand, but we do consider the frogs first and always first. We do not sell to those who do not have a similar thought pattern, i.e., frog safety first. Otherwise, MOST of the time, our shipments go to your door, and we ALWAYS coordinate with you for delivery.
As a fact: About 95% of our retail shipments, and over 50% of our Wholesale shipments go to the door.
Further, we usually require pickup when: 1. We send over 100 frogs at a time and that is quite often, and/or 2. Times of the year like this [today's date is January 5, 2017] when the weather can be unpredictable, especially here.
In Eugene, Oregon we do enjoy superb Rain Forest conditions, and the frogs LOVE it. Still, like any rain forest the precipitation patterns can be weird. That makes for an unpredictable winter too. The geographical reason for this is we are between the Pacific Coast to the West, two mountain ranges to the East, the world class Columbia River to the North, and down to the bend of California to the South. As such, the weather fluctuates, but in winter the fluctuation (e.g., temperature swing) is on the low end of the thermometer.